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SPOTLIGHT: INTERVIEW WITH FIRAS RAOUF,
COO, EEYE DIGITAL SECURITY
Interview by Jennifer Beever
eEye Digital
Security is a network security software company based in Aliso
Viejo that recently joined the Software Council of Southern California.
eEye has been doubling in size each year since 2000. We caught
up with Firas Raouf, COO at eEye, as they launch into their plans
for 2005.
Firas,
would you explain exactly what your company does?
eEye Digital Security specializes in an area within the security
market called vulnerability management. One of the major issues
enterprises are faced with is the inherent vulnerabilities that
are found in computing devices, whether it's the operating system
or the software that runs on it. These vulnerabilities are discovered
by hackers that use them to launch attacks or by ethical research
firms that report them to the vendor, and then the vendor comes
out with a patch.
eEye's primary
business is delivering software solutions to help manage vulnerabilities
within the enterprise network. Our primary offering is a software
product that scans your network, uncovers all the digital devices
that you have, whether you know about them or not (they could
be rogue devices), and runs a series of checks on the devices
of known vulnerabilities. We then provide reports of all devices,
all vulnerabilities, and priorities based on criticality of the
vulnerability and the device that it sits on.
Do you
sell directly to IT departments?
We sell to security groups within organizations, who sometimes
report in to IT. When it comes to fixing the vulnerabilities,
IT gets involved because they manage the digital devices. Our
software provides a management console that helps IT and security
work together to fix problems.
What was
going on with security and vulnerability management when eEye
was founded in 1998?
At the time, the whole concept of vulnerability management was
very nascent. We had a point solution that was only doing the
scanning and discovery of vulnerabilities. That's what most solutions
were at the time - a way to equip the corporate administrator
with powerful tools that allow them to stay a step ahead of hackers.
How has
the industry changed since then?
Over time, especially in the last couple of years, the issue was
not just finding the vulnerabilities, it was, "how do we
fix it?" And this necessitated the process approach - the
workflow approach - which we delivered to the market in 2003.
Vulnerability management has become a CIO issue. CIO's are responsible
for business continuity. Vulnerabilities have become a very high
business discontinuity issue. And, with regulations like Sarbanes-Oxley
and HIPA, there are elements that are related to network security
- companies are now asked "what is the process that you have
deployed as a company to manage security risk to make sure that
your network is not being impacted or your data is not being stolen."
The industry
appears to be fragmented. Would you agree?
This industry is very fragmented. One of our VCs has a database
of about 850 security companies that they track, which is a very
big number. The interesting thing is that if you look at how many
of these companies have annual revenues of over 10 million dollars
a year, that list shrinks very quickly. Only a few of those companies
are public. So, from our perspective, about 800 companies are
creating noise when less than 50 really matter.
How has
eEye performed?
We have been doubling our revenue every year. We grew from about
10 employees in 2000 to 130 employees now. We have about 7500
deployments worldwide. Some of our largest deployments include
the Department of Defense, which was a multi-million dollar contract,
Citigroup, Viacom, and IBM to name a few.
How did
you come to join eEye? Did you have experience in the industry?
I didn't have experience in the security industry and, frankly,
not even in software. I knew one of the cofounders - Firas Bushnaq
- we went to high school together. When I was in the area working
with Booz Allen, Firas convinced me to come in and help him and
Marc Maiffret (eEye's "Chief Hacking Officer") commercialize
the business. I joined and focused on building the operation.
We've gone through four rounds of financing so far - the first
two were angel rounds. The last two - the series C with Insight
Venture Partners we closed in November of 2002. Our more recent
round this April had Bessemer Venture Partners and Insight both
coming in.
Was that
when financing started to tighten up?
We raised our first round in mid-2000, which was pre-dot com bubble
burst. We started feeling the impact of the burst at the end of
2000 and the start of 2001. Knowing that additional funding will
be unlikely in the near future, we focused on achieving profitability
as the top priority by the end of 2001. When we achieved that,
it eliminated the need for further funding, but also made us much
more attractive to VCs.
How did
you weather the storm?
We had some big plans for revenue and employee growth, and we
invested in a field sales team going after enterprise sales. We
had to scale back and focus on what we called bread and butter
sales - selling our solutions at a moderate price point using
an inside sales team. We focused on the channel as well and put
on hold our field sales model until we raised more financing in
2002. That's when we invested in enterprise sales and started
in January 2003. That was perfect timing, because the pain point
for enterprises was becoming much greater. Now we're represented
in both enterprise and departmental level sales, and we have about
50% of our revenues that come from transactions that are over
$75,000.
How is
this job different from management consulting that you did at
Booz Allen?
It's certainly very different. On the management consulting side,
I was in the position to recommend to companies how to run their
companies better, but I never had to go and do it myself (laugh).
We've gone through a tremendous learning curve - we went through
so many phases of organizational growth - starting the sales team
and all the nuances of that, including putting together the license
agreement, pricing, marketing, lead generation, hiring people,
going through rounds of financing, reaching profitability and
then trying to maintain it as we grow.
What's
been your biggest challenge?
The biggest challenge is that there is a lot of clutter in the
security market. Companies are being hit by hundreds of security
vendors. We have to maintain a clear differentiation. We've done
that through the integrity of how we discover the vulnerabilities,
work with vendors, and then work with customers on how to resolve
them. If you do a search on Google, you'll probably see many mentions
of us finding the most critical vulnerabilities and helping our
clients address them as quickly and efficiently as possible. Security
tends to go up and down - "Is it a 'must have' or a 'nice
to have'?" When new viruses come out like a Code Red or some
of the worms that have had significant impact - people think,
"Oh my God, security is very important. I need to do something
about it." Then three months later, their priorities shift
again.
Can you
point to one marketing activity that has been most successful
for eEye?
Because we've been in a position to find the most critical vulnerabilities,
we tend to have a large number of security administrators who
look to eEye for an opinion that is untainted and honest, not
driven by any needing to be nice to the "Microsoft's"
of the world. We have about 250,000 subscribers of our newsletter,
which is massive for a company our size. If we uncover a really
huge vulnerability, we do some PR around that.
How do
you find and keep good people?
The best way to attract good people is ultimately by introducing
them to existing employees that are proud and elated to be part
of eEye. That means creating an environment where the individual
employee has a voice that is heard and an opportunity to excel.
Creating a culture of openness and honesty, and a drive to be
the best also has a direct reflection on how the company is perceived
internally and externally.
How do
you describe your culture?
Our culture is fostered by everybody here - there is a feeling
at eEye that whatever we make, we make very, very well. We have
a strong reputation in the market as a company that delivers on
promises and doesn't hype stuff that we don't have or can't back
up. We'll continue to be the company that is willing to take on
the giants and that is willing to tell the emperor that he's got
no clothes.
What is
your vision?
We want to be a significant force of change in the security area
so that our tagline, "Vulnerability is Over," comes
true for network security. If we can get to a point where security
is not an issue (we may end up out of business), that's what we
aspire to - a point where our customers don't have to worry about
security.
With technology
changing so quickly, is it a challenge to keep up with hackers?
It's a challenge, but I think that there is more that software
manufactures can be doing to develop more secure software. These
organizations need to invest in training their software developers
in how to write secure code. You see this in Microsoft, where
security has been a much bigger priority over the last few years
than it was before. We've gone from a somewhat confrontational
relationship with Microsoft in the late 90s to a lot more friendly
one these days. We feel that we had an impact on getting Microsoft
to evolve. Some of it was painful for them - when we found some
very nasty vulnerabilities in Windows - but it's forced the giant
to do something about it.
We invest a lot of our energy in testing and retesting and retesting
for security vulnerabilities, not just for features and bugs.
From a security standpoint, every single developer at eEye is
a security person. Each developer is trained to recognize vulnerabilities
in their own code, and there is a cross peer review where different
developers get to audit other people's code.
What's
been your biggest success or milestone that you've achieved?
I would say the success we've had in our large enterprise sales.
The whole idea of vulnerability management has come of age. It
is an enterprise solution, a CIO level issue, and it's become
an enterprise must have. This is something we've been preaching
for the last seven years, but it's been only the last couple of
years that it's come true.
If there's
one thing you could tell other software executives, what would
it be?
I think that the biggest learning experience for us as we've been
growing eEye is making sure that we really understand the customer's
pain point and how you address it. When we first started, we invested
a lot in the enterprise model when we really weren't ready as
an organization, and the market wasn't there. We had to understand
how to scale the business profitably, and in the early stages
we had to focus on building a revenue base that was focused on
departmental level sales. We then used that revenue traction to
begin investing in the enterprise model.
What are
you looking at for the future?
We know that at some point 100% annual growth is not sustainable,
so this year we're being more conservative at 70% - even that
is a challenge. We've having a great time, and our employees are
very happy and proud of what we're accomplishing. At some point
we may consider going pubic - that would be a way reward our employee
and would allow us to scale even more.
What's
the future of the industry?
There's definitely going to be more consolidation and more companies
just not making it. I think you'll see a lot of the companies
fold or get acquired, while some of the private companies will
be able to go public.
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information on security, attend the February
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eEye Digital Security is located in Aliso Viejo, California, 1.866.339.3732.
Firas Raouf has served as COO for eEye Digital Security since
June, 2000. Mr. Raouf worked in strategic management consulting
at Booz Allen & Hamilton from 1995 until 2000. He has a BS
in engineering from Northeastern University and a Masters of Engineering
from the Thayer School at Dartmouth College.
Interviewer
and Software Council member Jennifer Beever spent 14 years in
the ERP software industry prior to founding her marketing consulting
firm, New Incite, in 1997. Jennifer helps companies create and
implement systematic, planned marketing strategies. Contact Jennifer
at 818-347-4248 or jenb@newincite.com.